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4thVariety · Nov 20, 2006, 12:41 PM // 12:41

I do have KOBT and I do not think it is a cheap title. You really need to pour some effort into these titles. As for the new skill hunter titles, they are anything but cheap. In fact, they are pretty costly.

KOBT means someone knows how to play the game, and as far as the ones I met go, I could just trust them at what they did. Even if it gets easier to gain the title, KOBT will never be your average Pug. And for those now at level (1) it is time to move up to level (2) I guess. Show the world that you reached the far corners of every chapter.

NeHoMaR · Nov 21, 2006, 08:37 AM // 08:37

Maybe a little off-topic, but, why not add a title (account based) like "I have all Elites" or something? that just max when you unlock ALL elites available in game. And another one "I am the skill King" or something (account based too) maxed when you unlock ALL skills in game.

EDIT: I forgot you just could BUY this titles (with real money) if added, just buying "skill packs" in store, feature I completely disagree; It's like buy a FOW armor with real money, even I think get all skills is a lot harder than get 3 FOW armors (I WANT Arenanet earn money, but think in different ways please)

Sid Doog · Nov 21, 2006, 11:39 AM // 11:39

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Originally Posted by Jamski

This cheapens "Kind of a big deal", I vote against.

No way lol i already have the title KOABD and i am all for this i already have all the elites (well missing one) but 290 total

, and as for Cheaping it well dosnt the Drunkard title cheapin it lol that is a wasted (literaly) title no skill no nothing involed just money and wasted time but that is just my 2 cents and again who am i just a guild wars player like yourself lol

Fried Eyed The High · Nov 21, 2006, 06:35 PM // 18:35

I can see the problem with this. As a whole few ppl actually have this title so taking it away from the ones that do is like WTF. On the other hand I like the idea. But Anet if you really wanna do this. Do it right. It wouldn't be that hard during implementation to not take the the title from other ppl. They have the skills so why take it away. Most elites are campaign specific anyway. So why take it away? Put the extra effort to code the update so you don't lose the title.

dudehere120 · Nov 21, 2006, 07:14 PM // 19:14

right now i have 225 elites capped. i have all 3 chapters, but not all the elites from any of the three. so i would lose my title all together

/not signed

beanerman_99 · Nov 21, 2006, 07:20 PM // 19:20

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Originally Posted by Alleji

Kind of a Big Deal is already easy for people who want to get it (3 protector + 2 cartographer) so I don't see the need for 3 more relatively easy titles.

But I'd like to keep skill hunter as it is for a different reason... Elite Skill Hunter (5) looks pretty cool to me. Canthan Skill Hunter (1) will look completely unimpressive, just like Protector of Cantha (1), simply because everyone has it and it's extremely easy to get compared to other titles.

If you add the international skill hunter title, I'm ok with it, since we're not losing the current skill hunter title that way...

Less people would see KoaBD as impressive, which is the whole point of titles in general IMO. Before NF, I considered KoaBD impressive because it required at least one "difficult" (read: lots of work) title in addition to two cartographers and protectors. With NF, it got a lot easier. Splitting skill hunter will give people a lot of "easy" titles to get for KoaBD (2)

I agree with this statement. As a Skill Hunter I think that this would cheapen the title more than those who think it would cheapen KOBD, which I don't understand how it is cheapened at all.

I don't want to loose all my hard work at capping skills and all the Platnium it cost me. I should NOT have to redo this or loose anything at all.

I think the simplist solution is to make the Title to be maxed with each chapter. If you got all of Tyrias Elites then it would be maxed for you and count towards KOABD. Same for each chapter you buy. Buy a new chapter and you may get a new tier to complete but it would still count as maxed if you got all from the previous chapter. Just my 2 cents.

dudehere120 · Nov 21, 2006, 07:24 PM // 19:24

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Kind of a Big Deal is already easy for people who want to get it (3 protector + 2 cartographer) so I don't see the need for 3 more relatively easy titles.

But I'd like to keep skill hunter as it is for a different reason... Elite Skill Hunter (5) looks pretty cool to me. Canthan Skill Hunter (1) will look completely unimpressive, just like Protector of Cantha (1), simply because everyone has it and it's extremely easy to get compared to other titles.

couldn't have said it better myself.....please keep it the way it is!

lennymon · Nov 22, 2006, 12:23 AM // 00:23

I voted for the change, but I think a great way to do this would leave the display as is, and give max title for each chapter with all elites capped.
Same would apply to protector and cartographer:
Cartographer <2/3 maxed, perhaps a display title here just for bling?>
Tyrian Grandmaster Cartographer 100%
Canthan Grandmaster Cartographer 100%
Elonian Master Cartographer 98.7%

Protector <2/3 maxed, same deal>
perhaps a 'Captain Planet award or something'

Skill hunter <unchanged, unmaxable international skill hunter here>
Tyrian 90/90
Canthan 90/90
Elonian 79/91 (too bad about that ebon dust aura

)

along these lines with the subtitles ONLY counting towards the KOABD track and the category titles only for display/bling!!!!

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Originally Posted by NeHoMaR

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EDIT: I forgot you just could BUY this titles (with real money) if added, just buying "skill packs" in store, feature I completely disagree; It's like buy a FOW armor with real money, even I think get all skills is a lot harder than get 3 FOW armors (I WANT Arenanet earn money, but think in different ways please)

This is untrue of course, since while a skill pack [unlocks] these skills for your acct, the skill hunter is of course character based (and it SHOULD stay this way). While an unlock makes those skills available to pvp and heroes, your character is still blissfully ignorant.

Edit: heh, look what I dug out of the ancient post archives(ok 2 months ago)... I am not criticizing Gaile, but since this post from 2 months ago clearly states that all titles are attainable confirms that splitting it up is the right choice

http://www.guildwarsguru.com/forum/s...4&postcount=10

Konrow · Nov 22, 2006, 12:52 AM // 00:52

I'm all for it seeing as it makes it more fun to hunt campaign specific elites and i might have a shit at kind of a big deal now.

Alleji · Nov 22, 2006, 01:41 AM // 01:41

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Originally Posted by Theus

Onoes1!11 mah poor epeen!

Could you expand on your... um... "criticism" a bit more? I really don't get it.

Evilsod · Nov 22, 2006, 01:58 AM // 01:58

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Originally Posted by dudehere120

right now i have 225 elites capped. i have all 3 chapters, but not all the elites from any of the three. so i would lose my title all together

/not signed

That is the single most pathetic reason i've ever heard for not letting a decent idea be implemented. If you haven't capped all of them from 1 chapter you don't deserve the damn title in either form.

Quote:

But I'd like to keep skill hunter as it is for a different reason... Elite Skill Hunter (5) looks pretty cool to me. Canthan Skill Hunter (1) will look completely unimpressive, just like Protector of Cantha (1), simply because everyone has it and it's extremely easy to get compared to other titles.

I'd have to say thats quite a good argument actually. But didn't Gaile say somet about International skill capper or somet like that, basically the equivilent of Elite Skill Hunter (5) only with an actual bonus...

Sue I Sidel · Nov 22, 2006, 05:50 AM // 05:50

/signed.

Great Idea

NeHoMaR · Nov 22, 2006, 09:23 AM // 09:23

I think the 16% of people that voted NO are the ones that misunderstand this poll, amazing. That people think they must capture the skills again OMG. If you already captured all elites you just will have 4 maxed titles after update, 1 per chapter and 1 "international" that will be as impressive as Elite Skill Hunter (5), exactly the same. And in the case, for example, you have all tyria elites now, excluding 1, you just need cap that one for the Tyria Skill Hunter. I don't see anyone losing anything. About that KOABD title, what's the problem?, everybody will have it, but a few will have the next one that need 10 perfect titles, not even talk about the one that need 15 titles or 20 or 25!

Developers, please add MORE titles, whatever you want, All HARD to get please. Never add again an easy to get title (like Sunspear) not even think about that please!

dwc89 · Nov 22, 2006, 10:05 AM // 10:05

A title for capping all elites in a chapter would be good- and something for having all in game as well. I have all 290 available atm - says I'll get master skill hunter when I have 380, a bit of a wait for those extra 90 skills I'd say.

/signed

ign - Huntress Velasca

navatar1 · Nov 23, 2006, 02:57 AM // 02:57

I definatly think this would be a good idea. When titles were first started I focused a bit on the skill hunter title, and then I found out it couldnt be maxed even if you had all the currently available skills. So I kinda let my title drift by the wayside while I focused on other max attainable titles.

I don't think it would take me too long to become max canthan or tyrian skill hunter, and am dissapointed by the people voting against this because they feel it would cheapen the koabd title, with 3 campains out lots of people will be getting this one soon enough, if they really want to, this will just be a little boost for some of us.

Only thing I'm wondering about is the core elites. Would those be left off the campaign elite hunter tracks in favor of the international one, or would they be hooked onto when that profession debuted?

scrinner · Nov 23, 2006, 04:16 AM // 04:16

/signed

If the title cant get maxed, I dont want it

Liberations · Nov 23, 2006, 05:32 AM // 05:32

Ok, i have a good plan for the skill hunter and KOABD title track, etc.
Here goes
The first title of international skill hunter(1a): one campaign and all core elites.
#1b- two sperate campaigns(not including core)
#2- 3 Campaigns
#3- 4 campaigns
1a should be a whole different title track all together.

KOABD-
they should have a title where its like 15 maxed+ (15 is just an example number) and not a set number. This way people will have prestige and not have to have a very specific uber leet title thats near impossible to get. With the introduction of more regular titles, more KOABD titles with the + suffix can be added.
Cartography(international)- first title at 2, then 3, then 4, then 5, etc

Somethng like this would recieve a lot less negative feedback and if you want to correct me i am 100% happy to change it

Sanji · Nov 23, 2006, 07:04 AM // 07:04

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Originally Posted by holymasamune

Note: A lot of people are voting in favor of this because they are myopic and don't see that even though they may be getting more titles as a result, so will everyone else and will just result in a bunch of KoaBD discriminators. "LF More for mission + bonus must have KoaBD or PKM"

Anyone who requires that you have KoaBD or PKM to group is probably not worth playing with.

Griff Mon · Nov 23, 2006, 08:33 AM // 08:33

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Originally Posted by Sanji

Anyone who requires that you have KoaBD or PKM to group is probably not worth playing with.

I think you would be waiting a long time for that group to form....

Stupid Shizno · Nov 23, 2006, 09:37 AM // 09:37

i say keep it the way it is

everyone is just looking for a way to get more titles, such as koabd